Kalypso backstabbing EU users with unfair price for Dungeons!! (updated)

 

Thank you everyone, who joined Kalypso forum and said something about this unfair price.

 

We won something, but not much. The price has been lowered 5€, down to 44,99€. BUT this doesn’t fix the problem. We get now ripped off by 52% instead of 67%.

Beware. There are more Kalypso games with ultra unfair price as written in my post also. I think that they will simply delete the it and ban me from the forums.

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WARNING!! DO NOT BUY THIS GAME (DUNGEONS) because of awfully unfair price for EU! Unless it’s on sale with a very cheap price!

 

Yay, finally, Dungeon Keeper franchise sequel Dungeons is available as the Steam news claims.

Pre-Purchase DUNGEONS – Steam Special Edition and receive M.U.D. TV to play now!
Assume the role of a mighty Dungeon Lord and create your own diabolical dungeon. Lure Heroes into your labyrinthine with the promise of treasure and a good fight – only to trap them with your ingenious devices.
DUNGEONS – STEAM SPECIAL EDITION includes an exclusive extra mission, all new maps to play in sandbox mode and a variety of unique prestige gimmicks to customize your dungeon!
Pre-Purchase offer ends February 10th, 10am PST.

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But hey, wait a minute. Wtf is wrong with the price, 49.99€ ($66.55)?? and in US only $39.99 (30.00€)? That’s 67% more expensive!

And not only in Steam!

 

Impulse:

Dungeons is available for pre-order worldwide for $39.99 USD | 44.99 EUR | 34.95 GBP. Dungeon pre-orders will be charged immediately with instant access to Ceville. There are NO REFUNDS on this title. Dungeons will be released worldwide on Impulse February 10, 2011.

GamersGate:

Price: 44.95€ – http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-DUNGEONS/dungeons

 

I wanted this game! Now I don’t! Unless they correct the price politics. But they won’t.

 

Fortunately there is a thread in Kalypso forums about this Steam Special Edition and one guy asked the question, why is the price in EU 20€ more expensive than in US. Let’s find out what they answer to this. And we got an answer:

They don’t give shit about EU! Ok that is not entirely true, because they finally lowered the price by 5€, but unfortunately it is still far from being fair price :(

 

Okay, I registered and posted something too, let’s wait answer for this.

 

So DO NOT BUY THIS GAME (DUNGEONS)! Unless it’s on sale with a very cheap price!

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  • Amadeus

    What a bunch of asshats.

    Heh, “Sorry, I didn’t mean to be euro-born”.

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  • Ice_

    Even if you add VAT to the USD price it’s no where near 44.99 EUR.

    This sickens me, the developers earn more from european customers and I’m pretty sure they don’t mind.

    Fuck them and their greedy currency conversion.

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  • tabi

    That’s totally usual in Japan

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  • Pyrii

    By the way, the admin replied with the most ignorant answer possible. http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=7839&pid=77695#pid77695

    ——
    Where have you lived the last twenty years or more?
    I.e. Why is the price for an ipad in us dollar 499 and in euros also 499? Just one example.
    Different markets, different currencies, taxes, and prices etc etc etc…
    ——–
    Wow… just wow…

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  • http://www.gamekeydistrict.com gamekeydistrict

    love it or hate it people will still buy it

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  • maitenieks

    When I look at this price and then at available screen shots and trailer I start to think that the guys at Kalypso must be mad. I mean the game looks bad visually and I doubt that it will be able to offer enough content to justify the price.

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  • noone

    “love it or hate it people will still buy it”

    or not, from what i’ve seen there is no multi-player (correct me if I’m wrong)… and the masses will turn to some other sources to get the game… (free sources that is ! :) ) and i will buy the retail game, when it will have a right price, i don’t mind having a nice collection of real touchable games

    Forget steam, they got greedy, they don’t deserve our respect, and our money.

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  • Amadeus

    “The EUR price point for Dungeons on Steam may actually be a mistake, we are looking to correct this asap.

    Also, we are sorry if anything we wrote came off as rude, it’s probably just a misunderstanding or a byproduct of skimming over the thread very briefly.”

    Quote from a reply from Kalypso Media.

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  • benetti32

    Great :)

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  • glubbar

    Good article. Thanks for the heads up.

    I’ll wait for that game to be like…. 10€ at most.

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  • glubbar

    Also, I should add that, like in most cases, Steam is not responsible for the unfair prices. Editors and publishers are.

    If you look carefully, all Valve’s products have fair prices (at least now).

    Some publishers must be trying to pull the rope as much as possible to earn more money for a short time, before pricing down their games.

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  • mik0

    If it was a VAT issue, let me pay in dollar then add the tax. Even amazon.co.uk sets it’s custom exchange rate (nowhere near the real one) that steal from the final user without him knowing that.

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  • slay

    quoting glubbar:
    “Also, I should add that, like in most cases, Steam is not responsible for the unfair prices. Editors and publishers are.”

    It is mostly true, for US publishers, to whom EU is land of rich morons, who got money-trees growing in their garden. For them there is no countries like Germany, United Kingdom, Poland or whatever which one. It is one big country called Europe. So when they come to Steam, they will be asked for price. “Oh sure, it’s $39.99″. “Okay, what price for UK and EU?” “Huh? Put there something, let it be like …. 49.99 yes, it is a nice number, put there 49.99. Well I don’t know how much it is in USD, but it’s a nice number. I like it.”

    But yes, Kalypso is not US publisher, its Germany – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalypso_Media

    According Chris from Realforge (the actual developer company) told that Amazon DE is selling it for 39.95€ – http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0047S7FFY/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1FR3P2JHKVVCQ5FNK2CN&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463375173&pf_rd_i=301128#productPromotions

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  • mik0

    while play.com has it for over 40€, TheHut has for now a price of 30€ http://www.thehut.com/games/platforms/pc/dungeons/10272272.html

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  • axl

    this game is a copy of dungeon keeper, i say more maybe dungeon keeper kicks this game ass after more than 10 years…and they want sell it like if they make a new and original game.

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  • gamekeydistrict

    if u see in steam top sellers list its on number 2 or 3 which means people are still buying it

    European countries are in so much debt but they still buy so much games

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  • http://maxobiwan.nanami.fr/ Maxobiwan

    Look-like they are confused with €/$ devise :
    For them it’s more like 1$ = 1,3€ than 1€ = 1,3$

    Let’s try with devise exchange :
    Partician 4
    US : 29,99€
    EU : 39,99$ (29,76€ Wow that’s fair ! )

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  • gamekeydistrict

    better buy from key stores or retail places like play hut amazon etc

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  • noone

    Update: :))

    God-bye kalipso, welcome p*r*teb4y

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  • Anonymous

    This certainly is the ugly side of Steamunpowered.com – Kalypso is a small publisher, they just opened offices in the US, so logically they need to sell their games cheaper there to be able to survive. Dungeons is made by a bunch of very creative people and everyone is super active and friendly on their forums. They also use a very user-friendly DRM which rewards registered players with free content for their games that they develop at their own cost. Also, Kalypso has published such great games as Tropico 3 and Patrician 4, it is such a dick move to call for a boycott on their games. Steamunpowered and everyone calling for a boycott here should be ashamed of themselves.

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  • slay

    I am sorry, but regional overpricing is not excused by opening new office in US.

    We are not saying that Dungeons is a crappy game or the developers aren’t competent. Vice versa, we were very eager to get this game. If the price wasn’t so unfair.

    Do you have considered why cheap markets survive, even if they get almost nothing from sales? Because they sell with cheap price and they sell lots.
    So if products price is high, then only rich people will buy it, because most can’t afford it, but, if you sell with lower price, more people will buy it, so you can get more cut from more products sold. Everybody wins.
    But not in current scenario.

    Everyone is a customer. Customer doesn’t like to be screwed. Customer holds the money. Customer has rights to choose, what and when to buy. And if customer feels that he is being robbed, he can choose not to buy and warn other people as well. Also customer can choose some alternatives that we do not recommend.

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  • Anonymous

    OK, so the EUR price for Dungeons on Steam is too high. Why not get it from somewhere else then if you’re feeling robbed or wait for the inevitable price drop?

    Having seen the game in previews and video, it is well worth the 45 EUR price tag. It’s a perfectly common price for games like these in Germany, for example. The PC market in the US is crumbling, you can’t sell PC exclusive niche titles like Dungeons for the same price. That’d be economical suicide.

    I’d rather see companies continue putting out stuff like Dungeons than call for a boycott just because you thing it’s too expensive.

    Seriously, shame on you for this slander campaign. If they will never put out an expansion (they promised multiplayer addition if the game is successfull) thanks to your boycott players around the world will put the blame on this site. And rightly so.

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  • Johnny

    Why not just create a user on the US Steam Store, and gift the game to your EU account?

    That way you get the game for the proper price and tell them to shove it.

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  • slay

    @Johnny – yeah, go ahead, when you want your accounts get banned :) This is not allowed by Steam rules.

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  • glubbar

    @Anonymous: I understand that you don’t like the idea of boycott, but seriously, I can tell that you are a clueless person.
    Please go somewhere else or at least get information and think before you post.

    @slay: you’re doing a great job, here and on the Kalypso forum.

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  • slay

    @Anonymous user. I assume that you are connected to Kalypso company based on your comments and location. So I’m glad that you are here and can be part of this topic.

    We have no grudge against the company or employees. And we love the games.

    We all wish to live in harmony, get nice paycheck and afford our basic needs and entertainment needs. But if prices will go high for no reason, we have to look over our expenses. We cannot cut our outgoings for basic needs so we have to limit our entertainment expenses. And if we realize that one entertainment item is being sold somewhere else with so much better price, then it is first thing to go.

    So if you go to a supermarket in Worms and see that Duke Nukem Forever costs 49,95€ but in Bensheim local store it costs 39,95€. I wonder which shop will you choose? And when you go back to Bensheim to buy the thing, the game is sold-out or the store doesn’t even exist anymore. So you will think over, do you really need it or not. And for easing your pain, you tell yourself, that you will buy it, when it comes on sale with discount. And then you will wait until the price drops.

    What I want to say, is that almost every game that comes out, costs now ca 50€. And soon 60€. And this, my friend, means that soon there will be lots of games on the market, very good and very pretty games, but not enought buyers. And this leads to the collapse of game industry as there are not enough people who can afford buying the games. And this means that several good developers or publishers have to close their business. Just look what happened during industrial crisis.

    But I still wonder, why most companies push away european customers with such unfair prices. There is no money tree in our backyards. We have limited resources too.

    Let’s compare Command and Conquer 4. In US the price is $19.99, it is ca 15€. But it is being sold in Steam for 49,99€. And in Australia even for $69.99. So, how would you feel, if you know that you have to pay more than 3 times more than somewhere else? And this is not one unique case, but it is usually so.

    But fortunately everything is not so dark and pessimistic. There are still companies that have fair priced games on the market.
    Fair prices in Steam – http://www.steamprices.com/eu/fairpriced
    And some have even cheaper price for EU customers than for US customers – http://www.steamprices.com/eu/topsavings

    Yes, we want the games, we want new games and we want to buy them. For reasonable price. We want fair prices to stay legal and support the gaming industry.

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  • slay

    thank you, glubbar :)

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  • Faky

    50% more in EU?? Ha. This one i will play for free, thank you very much. But ok, if the game is awesome and they incorporate multiplayer i will buy it – once it is 50% lower price in EU compared to US.

    Now fuck you Kalypso and every other company that uses this scheme and go fight for your customers in EU. Otherwise torrent wins and we will all just laugh and laugh…

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  • Pyro Gourmand

    Kalypso… seriously…

    You can’t enforce these prices, you know that…

    You’re not Activision sellings its latest CoD, you’re a tiny publisher, admit it.

    Don’t try that, you’re not in the 2000′ where you could have fun with the retail prices, you’re in 2011 : digital platforms are bigger than retail (=> regional market are no longer relevant), and there’s torrents if you try to mess up with gamers too much.

    Live in the now, live in 2011.

    Fair price ffs.

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  • Elbart

    Neat, they prefer to earn 0 EUR over earning 40 EUR.
    I bet their employees are thrilled to know that.

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  • Faky

    Oh sweet i see the free version is already out 14days before release. That is what i call fast digital service ;)

    Now lets see if it is worth my time, since i already know its not worth my money. And what i noticed is that its one of those Games for Windows titles – its a no buy even if its 50% lower price in EU. Sorry Kalypso try harder with your next game.

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  • Samael

    I was kinda intrigued by the games buzz until I’ve read that it’s developed by realmforge. You know, the developer who made MUD TV, a broken and bugged up the ass piece of shit with a really nasty memory leak and a bug that shreddered your save file and they basically thre their hands in the air and said “No patches, suckers. We have to make our next broken game and overcharge it”

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