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11:37 15/11/2009
| Koveras_Alvane
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Hello,
you've already covered a similar story on Company of Heroes in August, so I hope you will publish this, too, because fellow German and Russian gamers need to know this…
Let's start with the small fact that even if you buy a retail version of the game in the local shop, you still REQUIRE Steam to install on your PC. If that weren't outrageous enough, Big Brother Steam now wants to decide for us, what language we want to play our games in. IF you register the game in Steam from a German IP, it automatically locks ALL other language options. The language tab does not appear in the game properties at all (as it should, and does for the rest of the world — I hear the Poles got an atrocious translation, but at least they have an option to play it in original English) in the single-player campaign (see screenshot). The tab DOES appear in the MP version properties but it doesn't do anything, the game gets launched in German, regardless of what language you choose.
No explanation except the same feeble whining about German Federal Authorities has been given. Steam ignores any queries as to which exactly German laws does selling English games in Germany violate, and in the meantime publishes other games in English without further qualms. I've talked with IW and Steam German support via phone and they have denied any knowledge of what's going on.
There is, apparently, a bug in the German version downloaded via Steam in the first place that makes the game install in English but renders it unlaunchable if you do as much as try to change languages (see the story here), which the German IW support acknowledges as a problem, by the way. To be completely honest, I envy such players.
Now, to the Russians. It has been now officially confirmed by Valve that Russians can only play the game in Russian, so the game crashes even if you set you Steam interface language to anything else. But at least, they acknowledge this, we Germans are still subhuman beings who deserve no comment in their eyes.
See more on the story here. So far, nobody has found a workaround AFAIK.
Pure speculation begins now. It is my personal theory (which you may or may not agree with) that because of certain politically incorrect features in the game (Airport mission, Russians attacking Washington, nukes blowing up, etc.), the Steam executives decided to play it safe and censor the (in their eyes) sensitive moments out of the game. It is no secret, for example, that you CAN'T shoot the civilians in the No Russian mission in the German version of the game, completely missing the point of that level. I would imagine there are more subtle censorships in the foreign language versions, so to avoid investing extra money in consistently censoring all other language versions, Steam simply forbade people who live in a censored region from playing any version other than censored localization. And now they cover up this blatant violation of our customer rights with bleat about evil German authorities. Pure speculation ends now.
Thanks for reading this. I would be very happy if this story appears on the main blog…
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13:03 15/11/2009
| H4ndy
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I'm from Germany, too. I've bought MW2 from G2Play.net (even it took 4 f*cking days to get my pre-ordered key) and everything works fine. My Steam is set to english as almost all games are set to english I'm playing via Steam. I've registered my MW2 key and started downloading it. I have a language tab and could change it, but I haven't tried so far (and probably never will). So maybe it's a problem with a german retail DVD install. Maybe you should try to delete all content and download the game just through steam like I did. Or they decide this by CD-Key (region specific codes maybe?).
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13:55 15/11/2009
| Koveras_Alvane
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OK, I'll try re-downloading the game (takes ages) but it didn't work for people who tried it before, maybe because of the region specific codes you mention, so my hopes are not very high on that issue.
But even if it works, it'll be a good workaround but it alters nothing on the fact that German gamers are not INFORMED in any way that such problems should be expected BEFORE they pay the 60 euros.
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18:36 15/11/2009
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From my own experience I know that buying any game that requires Steam = downloading it directly from Steam. I never use the disks because they are probably localized, unpatched etc.
I'd rather wait a little longer then have fucked up game. Although it might be a cdkey region problem as well.
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18:44 15/11/2009
| Koveras_Alvane
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stranded said:
From my own experience I know that buying any game that requires Steam = downloading it directly from Steam. I never use the disks because they are probably localized, unpatched etc.
MW2 is the first game that I played that absolutely requires Steam. I've managed to avoid that… thing thus far. Also, if Steam is gonna download my patches anyway, I'd prefer to avoid downloading 12 GB games if I have them on discs already. I'm still downloading that MW2 from Steam right now, by the way.
Also, from what I gather, it's not a problem for people in other countries to download extra languages. What outrages me (and not only me) is that Steam FORBIDS Germans in particular to do just that. The technical possibility is there, but Big Brother's consent is not.
I'd rather wait a little longer then have fucked up game. Although it might be a cdkey region problem as well.
Yeah, well, normally I'd wait, too, but not in this case, sadly. Hopefully, IW releases a non-Steam version of MW2 at some point…
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19:27 15/11/2009
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OK, I've downloaded the game completely from Steam and it still only has German language files, no Language tab to change it, and launches in German only, despite my Steam interface set firmly to English. It appears that it DOES have region specific CD keys. I guess that proves the point.
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19:30 15/11/2009
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You can always try to contact Steam Support and maybe they will somehow change your German-only version of the game to normal version.
If you're lucky enough and get to the right support person they will do it.
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20:45 15/11/2009
| Koveras_Alvane
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People have already tried contacting Steam support, and that's what they got in reply. I could, of course, try it again but I have a feeling it just won't work over email.
Does anyone knows if Steam has a telephone support hotline that can be reached from Germany? I haven't found any numbers on their page…
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21:58 15/11/2009
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Valve does not offer any other form of support. I really feel sorry for you man. And I don't like how the support is talking:
Steam users with German IP addresses or billing addresses may only purchase the German version of this game via Steam
But your copy is from the store, a retail copy. This doesn't make sense.
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04:12 16/11/2009
| Dragoon
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Strange story.
I read the German retail has a little bug when installed on Steam with language set to English.
It will install the Game from the first disc, but when asked to insert the second disc Steam will crash and maybe the whole computer too. The reason is that on the second disc are the language files but only the German files. After restart Steam will continue the installation and download the files from the internet.
I got this story from here.
There a German editor of the PC Magazine explain the Steam installation process.
http://www.gamestar.de/index.c…..arfare%202
Well I bought the UK retail and I have a Language Tab, when language switched Steam will start downloading the localized package.
BTW: Did you really paid €60? Because the only place I saw that actually really takes €59.99 is Steam store.
Since the release I have been to several places where retail PC games are sold and the prices where around ~45-50€.
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07:04 16/11/2009
| Koveras_Alvane
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stranded said:
Valve does not offer any other form of support. I really feel sorry for you man. And I don't like how the support is talking:
[quote]Steam users with German IP addresses or billing addresses may only purchase the German version of this game via Steam
But your copy is from the store, a retail copy. This doesn't make sense.[/quote]
Indeed. I've checked the discs, it seems that the discs do not contain any language files other than German, too. And I can't download any English files via Steam because, well, it ain't allowed, as you've pointed out. So there, we Germans are screwed.
Dragoon said:
Strange story.
I read the German retail has a little bug when installed on Steam with language set to English.
It will install the Game from the first disc, but when asked to insert the second disc Steam will crash and maybe the whole computer too. The reason is that on the second disc are the language files but only the German files. After restart Steam will continue the installation and download the files from the internet.
I got this story from here.
There a German editor of the PC Magazine explain the Steam installation process.
http://www.gamestar.de/index.c………arfare 2
Well I bought the UK retail and I have a Language Tab, when language switched Steam will start downloading the localized package.
BTW: Did you really paid €60? Because the only place I saw that actually really takes €59.99 is Steam store.
Since the release I have been to several places where retail PC games are sold and the prices where around ~45-50€.
Yeah, I know about that bug and I've mentioned it in my original post. :) And yes, I've paid 60 euros to get the game on the first day after release.
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07:15 16/11/2009
| slay
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what if to copy all discs to harddisk and try to run it from there?
or maybe second disc is broken, like wa announced here before?try to find another "alternative" 2nd disc?
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To play or not to play – what question is that?!
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14:40 16/11/2009
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The second disk is actually not broken, but the installer is. The error is that on the second disk are the language files but only the one for the localized version. If you buy the German version only the German files are there, if the Russian only the Russian. If you Steam language differs from the MW2 Language version the installer will seek the files on disk 2 not find it and crash.
@Koveras_Alvane did you buy now the Retail or the Digital Download version over Steam? Or asked the otherway around. When could you play the Game 11/10 or 11/12?
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16:59 16/11/2009
| Koveras_Alvane
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I've bought the game at the local retail shop (GameStop) on Tuesday, November 10. And you can't copy any files from the game DVD because they are packed into archives and encrypted somehow. Plus, the game won't play without Steam, anyway, so Steam will automatically download what it considers the "right" language files.
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18:16 16/11/2009
| Koveras_Alvane
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Some guy on the Steam forums apparently discovered a workaround but I have still to confirm that myself. I think he simply replaced the German files with the English ones he leeched of the internet… but that's illegal! Steam is surely gonna sue people for this! People they have provoked into committing illegal acts in the first place, if I may remind…
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19:57 16/11/2009
| Koveras_Alvane
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Yay! That whole discussion thread has been deleted from the Steam forums. :D We were onto something over there, were we not? ;)
PS: I'm glad because I've scored a moral victory. :3 Although that, of course, doesn't take us anywhere at large…
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00:11 17/11/2009
| slay
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November 16, 2009 – The Russian government has reportedly recalled Activision's Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 due to the title's "No Russian" controversial airport mission.
According to Hellforge, which translated GotPS3.ru's report, censored copies of the console versions with the airport level removed are expected to be back at retail in less than a month.
Infinity Ward has also reportedly released a patch for the PC and Steam copies that remove the level as well.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/104…..439p1.html
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To play or not to play – what question is that?!
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09:28 18/11/2009
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' class='wp-smiley' /> I'm in the uk but i bought my key from a keysite in americna for $43 worked out at at just under £26, maybe you can buy english keys to get the english game? i realise its a bit late now, but for anyone else maybe wortha shot, and its a bit cheaper, i got mine from cd key house, and they gave me a code for a discount on future purchases
also the russian level made me feel a bit funny, I left the ai to shoot all the civilians, it just felt wrong, apart from the moral bit, the detail of the level was highly impressive ithought, reminded me a lot of kayne and lynch
..if i uploaded the english files for people, I could get banned from steam?
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