L4D2 Pre-Purchase unfair regional pricing

If you are thinking about pre-purchasing L4D2, you should think twice, as you might be yet another victim of Valve’s regional pricing scam.

Previously only differing the price between US Dollar, Euro and British Pound, they now topped it by even discriminating between the European countries.

So we not only have the well known unfair price difference between Dollar, Euro and Pound:

US L4D2 Pre-Purchase: $44.99

EU L4D2 Pre-Purchase: 44,99€

UK L4D2 Pre-Purchase: £26.99

but also differences between european contries:

Germany, France, Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, Sweden and a lot of others pay the high, unfair price of 44,99€ (L4D2)
http://store.steampowered.com/app/550/?cc=de (or /?cc= fr, nl, dk, fi, se..)

while countries like: Poland, Norway, Italy, Spain, Lithuania and a few other – for incomprehensible reasons -, pay a much cheaper price of 34,19€, which is only slightly more than the UK price in Euro!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/550/?cc=pl

Thats a price difference of 10€ or even 20€ less when buying a bundle of four L4D2 copies.

Workarounds:

1.) Gifting cheap games to friends in an expensive, foreign region is thankfully still possible, eventhough it probably won’t be for long, judging from recent developements.

So have a good foreign friend who lives in a cheap priced region gift you L4D2, after sending him the money via PayPal or likewise.

2.) If you can live without the “exclusive baseball bat” weapon that comes with Steam Pre-Purchases: Don’t support the Steam Regime at all and Pre-Order L4D2 on Amazon.co.uk for the cheapest of all prices: £26.99 (29,26€)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-Arts-Left-Dead-DVD/dp/B002BSH9J4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1254503223&sr=8-2

German users should be aware that L4D2, like 1, will be censored again, when buying from their region.

Buy the game at Amazon.co.uk or have a foreign friend gift it to you, for uncensored Zombie Slaughter.

Crazy Machines 2: Free!

XLR8 Gaming is currently giving away Crazy Machines 2 Keys for free! (usual Price: 19,99 $ )

Follows these instructions to get yours:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=906418

After you got your key, download Crazy Machines 2 from here:

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_freecrazymachines2_home.html

 

Information about Crazy Machines 2:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Machines_2

L4D2 Banner Contest – Vote results

The L4D2 Banner Contest voting is now over.

The 1st place and the Penumbra Collector Pack are going to: PhanracK with Entry #2. Congratulations!

The 2nd place goes to: Torabi with Entry #1.

The 3rd place goes to: BadHabit with Entry #4.

The 4th place goes to: Dreg with Entry #3.

Thanks for your awesome submissions guys. :)

Phanrack: Please let us know what eMail address you would like your prize gifted to.

News / L4D2 contest – vote now!

Eventhough the contests founder unfortunaly left us, the contest is still on! :)

Participants who have all put a fair amount of effort into their creations are:

1.) Torabi http://steamcommunity.com/id/torabi

2.) PhanracK http://steamcommunity.com/id/PhanracK

3.) Dreg http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197996997951

4.) BadHabit http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197971974633

Chose your favorite graphic now by voting in our poll (it’s right below the menu on the right).

The winner will receive a copy of the Penumbra Collector Pack.

Thanks again to you from all of us. Best luck on your future projects. :)

Vote for your favorite entry now!

Future Chat Events will be held on our IRC Channel only.

While our “defeat the admin” TF2 event was a full success and I believe that we all had a lot of fun, the chat party – unfortunaly – was an uncontrollable chaos.

The Steam Group Chat proved suitable of smaller amounts of users, but absolutely not for several hundred people with many of them spamming nonsense or virus links.

The chats programming seems to be flawed and inefficient too, seeing that it takes up to 50% CPU, increasing with the number of people and crashing whole Steam otherwhiles.

The result is, that future Chat Events will be held on our IRC Channel (#steamunpowered) on Quakenet only, which is guarded by Le_Chuck, our one-legged pirate Anti-Spam Bot, to provide a reasonable platform to discuss, even with larger amounts of people. ;)

The Steam Group Chat will be locked at that time.

For those of you without an IRC Client such as mIRC, joining our channel is as easy as going to: http://webchat.quakenet.org/ and entering your Name.

Of course you are welcome to join and idle anytime. :)
Other than the Steam Chat, there are usually Admins around at all times.

All details again:
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Steam Unpowered IRC Channel:
Server: irc.quakenet.org
Channel: #steamunpowered
http://webchat.quakenet.org/
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We will mention if any of the listed shops contain DRM (Digital Restriction Management) games, regional locked games or regional shops. SSL security is also another important feature to protect customer’s personal information so that will be mentioned as well.

If any information on this page is incorrect please let us know as soon as possible.

NEW SHOPS – untested!

Approved List

Disapproved List

    1. Steam [DRM and regional locked games, regional shops that differ up to 40% from each other in many cases]
    2. EA Store [DRM and regional locked games, regional shops that differ greatly from each other in many cases]
    3. Amazon [DRM games and regional shops that differ greatly from each other in many cases]
    4. G2Play.net [Although it used to work great, people these days claim their keys don't work in several cases, some keys are the cut versions of games on Steam and some sources even claim that their keys are stolen - site removed from the approved list.]
    5. CDkey-Game.com [no SSL] – do not buy from them, read this

Updates
10/07/09 – Removed G2Play.net from the approved shops list, and CDkey-Game.com as well.
12/06/09 – Added New Shops (untested!) category.
05/29/09 – Added OnlineKeyStore, cdkeyshop and CDkey-Game.com has been added again as well, added an additional comment about user experiences
05/28/09 – Amazon has been put on disapproved list, GAME.co.uk has been added to the approved list
05/01/09 – GamersGate contains regional locked games.
04/19/09 – Added an additional comments part at the bottom of the page
04/09/09 – Removed CDkey-Game.com after receiving feedback about it (of it possibly being fraudulent)
04/07/09 – Added CDkey-Game.com to the list (has no SSL)
03/25/09 – Impulse contains regional locked games
03/23/09 – Added DE/FR/IT store links of Metaboli and that the store contains DRM games
06/16/09 – The list is no longer maintained by the original author. Please forward all messages to other maintainers/administrators when you deem it necessary.

* Additional comments

Please remember to report your shopping experience with any of the shops above, whether good or bad. This gives us a better insight if the shops are reliable enough or not.

Cleaning up the mess, defining the new goal (and file a new complaint)

When this whole campaign was started and named 1€ ≠ 1$ (one euro is not one dollar), we all hoped that by this it would eventually be corrected.

This is not the case. At start we complained to the EU commission about the price difference. Whether it be the price difference in the US vs EU or UK vs EU Steam case.

In the end, sadly, 1 euro is 1 dollar if Valve decides it is. The recent response from the European Commission explained this very clearly (and it was maybe too complicated for some people to understand, thus this post).

We have nothing against Valve any more, or do we? Well not in the currency case anyway, they can charge us whatever they want, and Europe allows it.

However there is one thing I do want to mention in this quick news announcement after the European Commission response announcement. One of our dear Steam Forums users Jani666 made this apparent (right here).

I’ll just get down to the point:
Part of the 97/7/EC directive: “whereas it means that consumers should be able to have access to the goods and services of another Member State on the same terms as the population of that State;”

(A directive is a legislative act, which is a statutory law, which is a written law, yeah they go far to cover it up in complicated words. In theory it’s only binding to member states who they are addressed to, in practice all directives except for the Common Agricultural Policy are addressed to all member states)

Or in other words, the UK is a member of the EU. UK citizens can access the UK store, which means that any other EU citizen has that same right under the same terms.

Even if Valve will officially respond to this (or even correct the prices towards US pricing), they will have to open up the UK shop to Europe or face the legal consequences.

What can you do? Go back in time and file a new complaint but however this time, mention the above directive piece and tell as an EU citizen you are being blocked from an United Kingdom online store.

Link to the complain form:
http://ec.europa.eu/competition/forms/consumer_form.html

Example:
http://steamunpowered.eu/example.html (thanks to Stranded for this great example page)

This will probably will be one of the last real announcements for a while. If enough people file a complaint we’ll hopefully get a response within a month or so again. So head out once more and tell this to everyone you know that is interested in this.

European Commission responds

It seems several people who have sent out complaints as according to the
1€ ≠ 1$ announcement ( click ) have received a reply from the European Commission.

Here is a picture of the response:

(mirror)

The person responding appears to be not understanding the issue. Or is it that we did not understand the issue at the time? We must be reminded that the original issue was 1 euro being 1 dollar, thus the group name “1€ ≠ 1$“.

Later on it became apparent that Steam UK was way cheaper and that certain European countries did not charge VAT for software, or even use the European currency at all.

But let’s not forget the other letter mentioning. The person mentions several other arguments that do apply to the matters that I just named. If you read the letter well, you can see that the person says different pricing in European countries is not an “exception”, but in in fact “a rule”.

Here is my reply to this letter trying to clarify the matter, and hopefully get some answers which are helpful:

(mirror)

I will keep you guys updated with any news on this matter.

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